Mr.Orange
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Je repondrai comme un vrai Belge
Nov 22, 2015,12:36 PM
... so that' surely be the dial of the 5070, but definitely the Minerva mouvement.
No other brand, besides Montblanc, has created beauties with that level of elegance when talking about a mouvement. Poetry, simply poetry.
Very privileged to have visited the Villeret Manufacture, a long with some Belgian firiends. Amazed by the craftsmanship.
Have a nice weekend,
L'unité et fraternité, Monsieur Orange ;-)
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very nice report.
By: Alex 007 : November 22nd, 2015-00:59
Only fear that because of this I will also have to purchase the steel version (my RG version is due to arrive in a few weeks)
Great comparison !
By: P@trick@Belgium : November 22nd, 2015-01:27
when I saw the MontBlanc I was immediaely sold by the great blue dial and layout, having the opportunity to visit the Minverva manufacture a few months ago no one needed to convince me on the fine handcraft these people make overthere. I allready have a 5...
wow, Alex, Patrick, me .....les Belges sont éveillés
By: Bruno.M1 : November 22nd, 2015-01:45
Nice post Nico These MB are superb but I'm sure it is all a matter of taste, some prefer a Datograph, others a Vacheron, etc Same with the shape of the case , while you say a 5070 could look a bit more outdated .... that makes it imo much more beautiful. ...
The Francophone world is awake, indeed. ;)
By: amanico : November 22nd, 2015-01:57
There are many things to discuss, which is very exciting. The hands, it is a wink to these old Chronographs. Liking them is indeed a matter of taste. Linking them to their roots is obvious. The shape of the case and lugs, it is clearly a choice dictacted ...
Thank you Nico for a fantastic post and Bruno for very relevant comments.
By: dr.kol : November 22nd, 2015-02:05
I would not hesitate between 5070P and MB a second and go for 5070P. MB is very very nice but like Bruno said, there's nothing special in the case design. Based on the looks, MB beats easily 5170 but I suppose the latter is technically more sophisticated....
Big smile!
By: dr.kol : November 22nd, 2015-02:38
Oranges vs. oranges is gold vs. gold. We all know that the only common thing between steel, white gold and platinum is the whitish colour of the material. For a watch steel remains (IMO) the best, platinum the most difficult to work with as well as giving...
Fantastic review Nico
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : November 22nd, 2015-05:14
I hope to see this steel 1858 Chrono with the blue dial soon too! Actually Alex Schmidt is in Singapore now and many collectors have seen this watch today (unfortunately I had to take care of my kids today and couldn\'t make it to the boutique). I hope to...
I know you couldn't do it today, I " spoke " with Alex, today. ;)
By: amanico : November 22nd, 2015-06:13
And I told him that the case would be too big for your wrist. If the 44 mm time only is too big, I don't see how it could be different for the chrono case. A pity as it is wonderful, at least from what I see on official pictures. Please take a ton of pict...
Thanks Nico!
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : November 22nd, 2015-23:58
Yes I took some pics today. Met Alex and the Singapore Mgt team Will post soon Cheers Robin
That is absolutely a beauty.
By: TheMadDruid : November 22nd, 2015-06:53
You were so right about this watch. Funny...I could swear I already said this yesterday...
I hope you love.
By: TheMadDruid : November 22nd, 2015-07:55
It will be a great addition!
A very nice limited edition
By: Mark in Paris : November 22nd, 2015-07:12
I'm surprised to see that I see more things (and positive) from the steel version picture than from the rose gold one. I guess it is due to the blue dial/steel case combination. I find it great and very appealing indeed (as I did already with the first Vi...
This is not exactly what I meant, let me express myself better
By: Mark in Paris : November 22nd, 2015-08:05
Of course the Minerva is better finished that the Patek (or any regular higher much higher volumes chronographs). And I don't say that the lower the volumes, the better the finishing, automatically. But, if a brand chooses to have a low output volume for ...
Yes, they were gigantic for their time.
By: amanico : November 22nd, 2015-08:15
I am very enthusiast for the reason you mentioned. The level of movement decoration, for this level of price, is just outstanding. The steel version is priced at 24 K Euros! We are not used to that, from most of the Manufactures. And when it comes to Inde...
Yes, I agree...
By: Mark in Paris : November 22nd, 2015-08:42
For that price it is indeed very hard to compete when willing to have something special (a historical soul, character) and with a very high finishing. it is nice to have this kind of offer. Cheers, Mark
Solid gold case,
By: jrwong23 (aka watchthebin) : December 5th, 2015-08:47
Solid gold dial, grand feu enamel on the solid gold dial, solid gold hands, hunter case back, lower production numbers (piece unique for PT, LE 8 for WG, LE 58 for red gold - and now all newer Villerets are only Piece unique or LE Max up to 18). This 1858...
Your initial thoughts on this one are quite welcomed, and bold!
By: MichaelC : November 22nd, 2015-07:36
I happen to love the second part about it - you are not afraid to compare to Patek. And despite the inevitable "apples and oranges" sentiments, you are correct to do so. When I fell in love with watches as a young boy, and then dreamed of a nice one as I ...
The secret is here: A superb blend of old and new.
By: amanico : November 22nd, 2015-08:27
Not really a Tribute, not a new watch, a bit of both, with some liberty in the design, but in total respect of the DNA. That's just brilliant. I used to say that, for me, the watch which represented the most the DNA of the brand was the Rieussec Chronogra...
In my opinion, this is an anti snobbish Chrono.
By: amanico : November 22nd, 2015-08:51
Those who only swear by the name on the dial will avoid it. Which is good. Only for those who are more interested in the inner value of a watch. Yes, a Purist Watch. Definitely. To be confirmed in the real, though. Best, Mo. Nicolas
I agree with many of your points of course Mo,
By: Mark in Paris : November 23rd, 2015-16:10
as can show my reply to the Tag Heuer recent Smartwatch announcement post, about what I think of the overmarketing strategies and M. Biver's legacy (a great manager but someone who brung too much of these technics in watchmaking, now copied by everyone to...
Congratz!
By: Mark in Paris : January 22nd, 2016-10:10
Really looking forward to see this. Cheers, Mark
Je repondrai comme un vrai Belge
By: Mr.Orange : November 22nd, 2015-12:36
... so that' surely be the dial of the 5070, but definitely the Minerva mouvement. No other brand, besides Montblanc, has created beauties with that level of elegance when talking about a mouvement. Poetry, simply poetry. Very privileged to have visited t...