Nice. It almost seems as if ..

Aug 03, 2016,04:55 AM
 

the upper photo is digital and the lower photo is analogue. I prefer the lower photo.

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Which crop do you prefer?

 
 By: ThomasM : August 2nd, 2016-15:02
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The first for me

 
 By: KtWP : August 2nd, 2016-16:20
She needs a flour resistant watch!

The first one. [nt]

 
 By: Stenorealty : August 2nd, 2016-16:30

thanks for looking [nt]

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-12:42

This one is tough....

 
 By: InHavenPro : August 2nd, 2016-16:39
The first one has better focus/clarity while the second one is a better balanced image....

interesting points.

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-12:44
besides the crop I also processed each for a different feel - the second is darker, with more "noise" for a more "old time" look and feel, whereas the first one is more modern, even though BW Thanks for looking and your comments. Always appreciate differe... 

The first one seems to benefit from better definition.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : August 2nd, 2016-17:00
Are the Spaghetti Trees out the back?

lol your spaghetti trees comment...

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-12:47
can be taken so many different ways... LOL Thanks for looking. Which do you prefer, without any specific context?

No. 2.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : September 6th, 2016-11:41
I like all the extra subjects in the picture, which still do not detract from the main subject. And you know where the "spaghetti trees" comment comes from, right?

There was a "mocumentary", I believe as long ago as the 1950s, explaining how the Chinese

 
 By: TheMadDruid : September 7th, 2016-08:59
harvested spaghetti from spaghetti trees. If you Google it I am sure you will find it; and may be able to view it. When I was a kid I thought it was real.

I just Googled this myself.

 
 By: TheMadDruid : September 7th, 2016-11:04
My memory was quite faulty. It has nothing to do with China.

lol [nt]

 
 By: ThomasM : September 8th, 2016-08:56

Thomas I prefer the 2nd

 
 By: Mostel : August 2nd, 2016-17:47
From my recent novice post on the photography forum, you will know I know nothing. But intuitively, I prefer the 2nd shot, I think, because the 'work' is emphasized, whereas in the 1st, the woman is emphasized. I like the emotional interest of the work sh... 

great comments, thanks!

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-12:50
Mostel, once knowledge and intellect take over, it's a very very long time before once gets instinct and intuition back. Savor this time... I appreciate your detailed thoughts on how the shots make you FEEL as that is the part that I can imagine and guess... 

First one. Her face gets lost in everything in the second

 
 By: watchthatman : August 2nd, 2016-20:14
And her face is the focal point. Also the surroundings in the second don\'t add much. The noodles the face the clothes, it\'s all there in the first

I prefer the second, because....

 
 By: Baron - Mr Red : August 3rd, 2016-00:23
.....for me it is not about the clarity of vividness of the image, but it is about the atmosphere and "feel" of what is going on. The reflection in image 2 is a big plus for me.... the composition also feels more complete. 2...all the way.

"all the way" - I'm a little surprised at your choice (most above preferred 1 and 1 was a later edit

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-12:59
for me, whatever that implies...) and even more by how strongly you feel about it. Yours, and Mostel's, comments actually are more consistent with my natural tendencies, which are consistent with my philosophy, "context is everything, everything is contex... 

I get distracted by the different contrast and tone...

 
 By: cshimokita : August 3rd, 2016-02:11
I downloaded both image in order flip between the images without scrolling, I was trying to focus on the composition but the different contrast and tonal rendering kept grabbing my attention. I prefer the presentation of the first image but the second is ... 

Okay I worked with the photo a bit...

 
 By: cshimokita : August 3rd, 2016-02:53
I actually prefer the second image, but I can't do too much given the tonal range of the jpg as posted. In any case I will send you the results. The first image at the larger crop or the original would be fun to work with ; ). White noodles on a white tab... 

thanks for the additional comments!

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-13:03
shooting through glass didn't help!

thanks, you are right, of course, and both were processed with different "messages" and moods in mind.

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-13:02
as we discussed by email, the second was more "journalistic" but deliberately in an old bw newsprint sort of way, to reinforce the point that there is still much handwork, despite the rolling and cutting machine, versus the modern "no human hands" approac... 

I'm the average guy

 
 By: piccolochimico (aka dsgalaxy1) : August 3rd, 2016-02:32
So I can say the first photo is more focused on the woman at work, while the second photo shows where she works. I think there's a subtle difference, both are nice

Nice. It almost seems as if ..

 
 By: Rainer B. : August 3rd, 2016-04:55
the upper photo is digital and the lower photo is analogue. I prefer the lower photo.

interesting point about the "intensity"

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-13:04
and I'd have to agree! Thanks!

My pleasure Thomas

 
 By: Alkiro1 : August 8th, 2016-13:09
Best wishes Alkiro

Prefer #2 with

 
 By: Quan : August 4th, 2016-02:54
another 10-15% crop of the bottom and left side which will make this photo "more" complete...just IMO

Interesting, I'll have to play with it...

 
 By: ThomasM : August 8th, 2016-13:05
appreciate the very specific feedback!

The Second.

 
 By: mdg : August 8th, 2016-20:38
On the first, the right edge of the table is too close to the edge of the frame. Also, a subject should usually remain uncentered. Although both are too close to center for me, the second seems to be more \'balanced\' by being \'unbalanced.\'

Thanks for your comments, I agree and prefer not to have main subject centered...

 
 By: ThomasM : August 9th, 2016-23:40
this came up in the beer glass bar scene picture. Thanks, mdg.

The second ...

 
 By: JohnFM : September 5th, 2016-16:40
... is perfect to my eye. Provides context, a sense of the environment, and is more comfortable to view. The first reminds me a bit of close-in wrist shots of watches where it's harder to get sense of the overall look and perspective.

Reflections

 
 By: JohnFM : September 6th, 2016-14:57
Also Thomas -- the reflections 'make sense' in picture two. You can sort of see where they come from.

Good point, though I can imagine situations where

 
 By: ThomasM : September 7th, 2016-08:33
One might want to play with reflections...

thanks! [nt]

 
 By: ThomasM : September 8th, 2016-08:57